Would you hire someone that didn't graduate from college?
If you are going to hire someone, and he has all the skills and qualifications that you need... BUT he didn't graduate from any college:
1- I'll hire him
2- I'll hire him (less salary)
3- I'll look for someone else (less skills)
Education does not guarantee you anything from a candidate except they went to school and sat through courses and passed, it does not show you that they are able to apply what they learned or that they have any experience.
I myself have a university degree in Psychology & Computer Science - but have been in sales and marketing throughout my career until such time we started our own consulting & coaching business. My degree has little to nothing to do what I ended up doing as a career, so why would you not hire someone who had experience in the field with all the qualifications and skills over someone that had a degree in something that was not meaningful to the position. It might help you in ranking but it should not disqualify someone.
As someone who taught at a post-secondary institution, I had students that were there as a body in a seat only and were not able to sting a sentence together while others were engaged, excellent students and grasped the concepts. I would hate to think that one of them that scraped by to get a degree as most anyone can "JUST SCRAPE BY" and graduate versus someone who had 10 years experience and great references and all of the skills needed as they were learned and applied lost a job to one of those with a diploma.
Someone with a college degree is not necessarily smarter then someone without a degree. The person with the degree just took more classes and if they are like most of us they forget about 90% of what they learn in school.
Some of the most successful people in the world did not have a college degree. Henry Ford dropped out of school in the 8th grade but was smart enough to change the world of manufacturing. Many of the most successful people in tech don't have a college degree. Those include Bill Gates, Michael Dell, Mark Zuckerburg, and Steve Jobs who dropped out after one semester.
A college degree doesn't make anyone smarter it just makes them more educated.
You can teach people new skills but you cannot teach people work ethic and attitude. If the candidates has the right attitude to work, comes with good references, and you feel comfortable with his ability to learn new skills, then go ahead and hire him/her.
College (University in our neck of the woods!) does not guarantee success or in fact ability to execute their duties. It just means they have learned the theory but does not mean they can put it into practice. I can fly a jetliner in a simulator and on my PC, it does not make me a pilot!
I hope this helps.
Either 1 or 2, depending on other things around who s/he is.
There are a LOT of valuable self-starters and continuous learners out there who never had the opportunity to go to college for one reason or another. That doesn't mean they're not worth their weight in gold as employees, however.
Self-starters and continuous learners who overcome barriers to getting a higher education EVEN WITHOUT FORMAL CERTIFICATION are some of the best kinds of employees to have in your workforce if you're prepared to deal with them accordingly.
Number one. A piece of paper saying a person understands the theory does not mean one can apply it in real time. Sad to say I know a few people who got their degrees in subjects they were advised to get at the age of 17/18 and three or four years out of college, they hate what they do but have to pay the bills. They have the paper but are bored out of their skulls and do just enough to survive.
I would hire someone that has not graduated from college. However, the hill they would have to climb to prove their worthiness would most likely be steeper than someone with a degree concentrated in the field I am hiring for from a highly regarded school. I feel that the best managers and most successful executives have to always remain open to all possibilities and to rule this option out before knowing more details, meeting the person in question and details of what type of role hiring for would be showing an example of ignorance and close mindedness which I try and not exemplify. The best leaders in the world in business, government or any team related situation all hire to compensate for their weaknesses and obtain the best possible team around them. To rule out someone with no degree is limiting your options.
I hadn't earned my college degree for 29 years after leaving High School. I worked my way up to becoming the Sr. Exec. Vice President of the largest financial services firm in the industry in one of the top 3 insurers in the country. A college degree is important but it is only one measurement of a candidates credentials. Don't try the candidate differently. Evaluate the talent, skills and accomplishments and pay them accordingly.
I agree with Asmaa, it is skills as much as computing or qualifications that you need now.
Employers are only interested in "bespoke people" as they do not want to bother to train people also at the other extreme you have this non-sense about "over qualification".
Equally I have met people with half the alphabet after their name with Certifications and Degrees, but would not let them loose with a ledger or even basic work.
Exams are not everything.
The scenario is to be dealt with on an individual basis.
I know of a person that has experience. . . (over 40 years), consulted with, and worked with multiple CEO’s and entire teams of Fortune 50 companies. Worked in the following Industries, Advertising, Aerospace & Defense, Appliance, Auto, Aviation, Banking, Branding, Biotechnology, Building Materials, Business Services, Chemicals, Construction, Education, Energy & Utilities, Financial Services, Food, Agriculture, and Frozen, Gov't. & Nonprofit, Healthcare, Homeland Security, Hospitality & Leisure, Insurance, Internet, Laser, Marine, Marketing, Media, Medical Instrumentation, MFG Durable, MFG Nondurable, Pharmaceuticals, Retail & Wholesale, Retailing, Shipping, Software & Networking, Telecom, Transportation, Warehousing.
2 colleges offered positions for him to teach. But interestingly enough. . . he never graduated from college.
The person is Me. . . .
If the job requires a degree, but the candidate has equivalent experience, I may hire the person (depending on fit); I would probably continue looking for a better qualified candidate. If the degree is just considered nice to have, then certainly, especially if the candidate has transferrable or "equivalent" experience.
I'll definitely hire him/her because there's a slightly higher chance that because he has no college degree he/she will work harder than someone who has a college degree.
There is also a chance that the person in self taught and I do respect such people because I perceive them as go-getters.
I would hire him, but probably because I have a deeper understanding then most of the situation. I married at age 16, didn't finish HS, but got my GED. We had our first child 9 months and 18 days after getting married. With a family to provide for I didn't feel I could go to college, so I went to a vocational school for architectural technology. My career launched from there. Working for architects, starting my own firm in 1978 and then switching to retail design, construction and facilities management, creating many in-house teams and departments. BUT - it was not easy getting past not having the degree. And today, with most of the initial separating of resumes being done by a computer, there is no chance without someone giving a personal referral. Fortune Magazine did an article about me on this subsect and getting hired over 50.
Experience and common sense have much more value than a degree. I would put many of my non degree associates head to head with college grads who had no real world experience.
Unless your degree has a very specific area of training like robotics, computer science with programming, or something applicable to the job then the degree itself has little value.
I will take world experience over a degree that is unrelated to the job being offered. Liberal Arts shows me that someone was indecisive and just went to college for lack of other options.
Asmaa, you got the answer I suppose. My experience is similar. Yes, I studied engineering, and then worked as an oil engineer in a big company for 15 years before shifting track. Today I work as a content development consultant and have students/clients from all over, but I've no formal degree in this. So my answer is surely Option 1.
I would definitely hire someone who didn’t graduate from college if they had the skills to do the job competently and was a good fit for the rest of the team. I don’t believe in offering less money to someone who doesn’t have a college degree; especially if they have the skills and life experience that makes them equally qualified.
A college degree doesn’t guarantee a good hire; nothing can guarantee that – at least in my experience. As a hiring manager, I’ve had two experiences were the individual looked great on paper but was a terrible fit. Both were college graduates with all the right courses behind them but they didn’t have the work ethic or skills to be a contributing team member.
I’ve found people who are self-taught adapt easier and are eager to do new things and learn from their successes as well as their failures. There’s a learning curve for every new hire and while a college graduate may have an advantage in some areas, refusing to consider someone who doesn’t have a college degree is cutting off your nose to spite your face.
When you hire someone to join your team, it should be someone who can bring value to it – regardless of education.
Trust your belly here your head may say one thing, your heart another, but your belly never lies....A quote from the late Dr. Stan Gross, PhD Organizational Psychology University of Penn
It would depend on the role. If somebody needed a medical degree to deal with healthcare professionals that is one thing. In most cases the degree is almost meaningless Bill Gates and mark Zuckerberg did not graduate college. I am a believer more people should hire based on attitude enthusiasm and cultural fit.
It depends on the job/industry/position.
If the job is medical-related or a specialist job, then I'll hire someone who graduated from college.
If the job is not medical-related or a specialist job, then I can hire someone who did not graduate from college.
When I was doing my studies society taught me education is very important to get a job. But, once I started working I realized that certificate is just a paper. Because there are thousands of people who has a degree with no skills and common sense to complete a job with perfection where as a person without a degree certificate can do it with ease. I think this is a discrimination to pay less salary for a non-graduate just because he didn't graduate from any college.
Yes, I'll hire #1 :)